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Minutes of the Meeting of Social Services North West

Held on 19 September 2003

At Oldham Civic Centre

 

Present

Members

Cllr Keith (Chair)                               Knowsley

Cllr Gorton                                         Blackburn with Darwen

Cllr Cheetham                                   Lancashire

Cllr Chowings                                    Liverpool

Cllr Quinn                                           Oldham

Cllr Hornby                                         Rochdale

Cllr Middleton (Deputy Chair)          Tameside

Cllr Kelly                                             Wigan

Cllr Froggatt                                       Warrington

Cllr Howarth                                       Bolton

Officers

P Jones                                              Blackburn with Darwen

P Jones                                              Bolton

A Marsland                                        Knowsley

I Davey                                               Rochdale

B McConnell                                      Sefton

A Higgins                                           Trafford

B Walker                                            Wigan

E Rafferty                                           Co-ordinator, SSNW

P J Viggers                                        Professional Assistant, SSNW

J Kay                                                  Administrator, SSNW

 

SSNW 03/12             Apologies for absence were submitted on behalf of:

Members:

Cllr Quayle (Trafford), Cllr Lloyd (Trafford), Cllr Holtom ( Lancashire), Cllr D Easton (Lancashire), Cllr P M Parry (Sefton), Cllr Murray (Bolton) Cllr Parker (Cumbria), Cllr Tyrell (Halton), Cllr  McInerney (Halton), M Candler (Stockport), Cllr  Morley ( Halton).

Officers:

R Jones (Lancashire), V Jackson (Oldham), A Williams (Salford), C McKinless (Tameside), C Barker (Sefton), A Williamson (Liverpool), D Whitehead (Warrington), S Sloss (Blackburn with Darwen), D Kerambrum (Blackburn with Darwen), E Ioannides (Bury), J Daintith (Stockport)

Welcome

Councillor Keith (Chair) welcomed members and officers to Oldham

 

SSNW 03/13             Presentation ‘My Life, My Choice, My Way’

Bev Maybury and Karen Saville gave a presentation called ‘My Life, My Choice, My Way’.  The presentation focussed on the story of two women, Karen who has Autism and Kelly who has learning difficulties and their Direct Payment Plan.  Copies of the presentation will be circulated with the minutes. Cllr Keith thanked those involved in the presentation.

 

SSNW 03/14             Minutes

RESOLVED

14.1.   That the minutes of the meeting held on  20 June at Kendal be amended to show that Cllr Robinson was not in attendance and that apologies were sent on his behalf. 

14.2.   The previous minutes were then approved as a correct record and signed by Councillor Keith in his capacity as Chair.

Matters Arising

Cllr J Hornby (Rochdale) referred to  SSNW  03/8 Key Service / Financial Pressure,  and asked had the letters to Ministers been sent. The Professional Assistant said that communication with Ministers had been postponed, pending developments regarding the anticipated Green Paper on children’s issues, the publication of which was considerably delayed. Given that there had now been further developments, including the green papers’ publication, it was agreed that letters would be sent as soon as practicable.

 

SSNW 03/15            Green Paper “Every Child Matters

The Professional Assistant presented the report hailed as the biggest child reform in children’s services this decade, its aim being to improve outcomes for all children and their families.

The four main areas that it covers are Early intervention and effective protection, Supporting parents and careers, Accountability and integration and Workforce reform.  Each council would be expected to appoint a councillor responsible for children’s services and a children’s director to bring together education and social services as well as improving co-ordination with the NHS and other agencies. During the debate Councillor Froggatt (Warrington) suggested that not enough regard is taken of cross boundary issues and structural change doesn’t guarantee improvement therefore it may help to have co-ordinators.  Anita Marsland commented that the ADSS welcomed the Green Paper in terms of leadership and raising profiles of children’s services.  Councillor Keith suggested the need of another meeting to discuss issues of the Green Paper in more depth and to formulate  SSNW’s response in time for the 1 December deadline. 

Thanks were also  given to the Professional Assistant for preparing the report at short notice.

RESOLVED

15.1.   Members noted the report.

15.2.   A further meeting for members to formulate a response to the Green paper will be held in November.  Details will be arranged and circulated.

 

SSNW 03/16             Children’s Issues

The Professional Assistant introduced the report on the latest developments in children’s services.  According to the latest Social Services Inspectorates annual report there were significant variations in performance from one authority to another.  Overall the Region enjoys lower vacancy rates amongst staff than the rest of the county but there are serious problems of recruitment and retention regarding children’s services staff.  Anita Marsland commented on the Visioning Day and the Quality Protects initiative and expressed the hope that SSNW would support it.  A children’s residential directory was produced some time ago by SSNW staff regarding information about the wide range of residential resources for children needing care. Care and Health are about to launch their children’s placements finder which provides comprehensive information about children’s resources – thus making SSNW Children’s residential directory redundant.

RESOLVED

16.1.   Members agreed that SSNW Children’s directory should be discontinued.

16.2.   That  SSNW supports the ADSS initiative

 

SSNW 03/17             Tackling Health Inequalities

The Professional Assistant attended the launch in Manchester of the Government’s national strategy “Tackling Health Inequalities: A Programme for Action”.  The Professional Assistant asked that a draft action plan produced by Government Office North West to be circulated to members authorities for a social services perspective on the document.

RESOLVED

17.1.   GONW Questionnaire to be circulated to members

 

SSNW 03/18             Delayed Discharges

The Professional Assistant introduced the report which was for information only.

RESOLVED

18.1            That the report be noted.

 

SSNW 03/19             Developing Political Leadership and Scrutiny in Social Care

The Co-ordinator introduced the report which described the principle of developing a partnership with the IDeA to introduce an added value programme of support and development for Executive and Scrutiny members. During the debate, it was clear that members needed more time to consult on and consider the proposals, it was suggested that time at the forthcoming seminar on the green paper could be allocated to a more in depth discussion on the proposals, and that an IDeA representative be invited to attend. Members were positive in their response to the proposals and Cllr Cheetham (Lancashire) was keen for Lancashire to be noted as supporting  the proposals. 

RESOLVED

19.1        That the report be noted.

19.2        A further report to be brought to next meeting.

19.3        That discussion on the proposals take place at the November seminar.

 

SSNW 03/20             Co-ordinators Report

The report was presented by the Co-ordinator about the aims and objectives of Social Services North West.  It was suggested that this be reconsidered at the next meeting in December.

RESOLVED

20.1. That the report be noted.

20.2. That a further report be brought to the next meeting in Knowsley

 

SSNW 03/21             Date of next meeting

The date of the next meeting will be held on Friday 12 December 2003 in Knowsley.

Councillor Keith thanked Oldham for their hospitality and everyone for their attendance.

 

 

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