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Minutes of the Meeting of Social Services North West

Held on 12 December 2003

At David Lloyd Leisure Centre, Kirby, Knowsley

 

Present

Members

Cllr K Keith (Chair)                            Knowsley

Cllr J Middleton (Deputy Chair)       Tameside

Cllr M Murray                                     Bolton

Cllr F Gorton                                      Blackburn with Darwen

Cllr C Cheetham                               Lancashire

Cllr D Easton                                     Lancashire

Cllr J Hornby                                      Rochdale

Cllr J Lloyd                                         Trafford

 

Officers

B McConnell                                      Sefton

A Higgins                                           Trafford

D Kerambrum                                    Blackburn with Darwen

A Kilpatrick                                        Bolton

J Coulter                                             Knowsley

I Davey                                               Rochdale

E Rafferty                                           Co-ordinator, SSNW

P J Viggers                                       Professional Assistant, SSNW

J Kay                                                  Administrator, SSNW

 

Apologies for absence were submitted on behalf of:

Members:

Cllr Kelly (Wigan), Cllr Quayle (Trafford), Cllr Holtom (Lancashire), Cllr P M Parry (Sefton), Cllr A Parker (Cumbria), Cllr Tyrell (Halton), Cllr  McInerney (Halton), Cllr J Warmisham, (Salford), Cllr C Hudson (Salford), Cllr P Smith (Warrington), Cllr C Froggatt (Warrington),

Officers:

R Jones (Lancashire), J Blott (Wigan), V Jackson (Oldham), A Williams (Salford), C McInless (Tameside), C Barker (Sefton),(Liverpool), D Whitehead (Warrington), S Sloss (Blackburn with Darwen), M Cooney (Trafford), J Bradshaw (Cumbria), P Newman (Manchester))

 

Welcome

Councillor Keith (Chair) welcomed members and officers to Knowsley and those present introduced themselves.

 

SSNW 03/22             Presentation - Go Integral by Dave Doyle

Dave Doyle gave a presentation on Older Peoples Services in Knowsley.  The presentation focused on providing integrated services on a neighbourhood basis through resource centres and developing plans in partnership with those who use the services. Copies of the presentation materials are included with the minutes.

 

SSNW 03/23             Minutes

RESOLVED

23.1    The minutes of the meeting held on 19 September at Oldham Civic Centre were approved as a correct record and signed by Councillor Ken Keith in his capacity as Chair.

23.2    No matters arising

 

SSNW 03/24             Children’s Issues

The Professional Assistant introduced the report on the latest developments in children’s services.  A letter has been sent to Secretary of State for Education and Skills Charles Clarke, and Minister of State for Children  Margaret Hodge, in response to the green paper but no response has yet been received.  Cllr Hornby (Rochdale) felt that there were mixed messages from the Department of Education and Skills (DfES) and suggested that further clarification be sought.  Ken thanked Peter Viggers for his work on this complex matter.

RESOLVED

1          That another letter would be sent to Ministers at the DfES pending their response.

 

SSNW 03/25             Co-ordinators Report

 

A         Meeting with the LGA

 

The co-ordinator gave an update.  Cllr Pat Case LGA North West Regional representative has offered to meet with SSNW to highlight and discuss matters of mutual concern and interest.  Cllr Case is available for the next scheduled meeting date of 19 March in Liverpool, and it was agreed to confirm this offer.

RESOLVED

25.1    That  Cllr Pat Case be invited to attend the next SSNW quarterly meeting on behalf of the LGA

 

B         Development Seminar

It was felt that the seminar was very useful and helpful, and that more seminars would be welcome. The Co-ordinator suggested that Joan Humble MP be invited to the next seminar, to discuss issues of mutual concern and interest.  Following the format of the first seminar, it would also be valuable to invite a speaker to lead a discussion on a topical issue.

RESOLVED

25.2    That Joan Humble MP be invited to the next SSNW seminar, and that a guest speaker also be invited.

 

C         Developing Political Leadership in Social Care

The Co-ordinator gave an update and thanked everyone who had already responded to the invitation or participation in the programme.    It was suggested that it might be appropriate for a member to attend a planning meeting with the Co-ordinator, IDeA and the SSI NW and further details would be circulated.

RESOLVED

25.3    That details be circulated to members asking for a volunteer to attend the planning meeting with the Co-ordinator, IDeA and SSI NW.

D         Role and Aims of Social Services North West

The Co-ordinator went through the aims and objectives of SSNW.  Cllr Cheetham (Lancashire) thought it might be better to put point iii. of the aims and objectives  “Making representations to Government…” as point i.  Cllr Lloyd (Trafford) asked that developing members political leadership and scrutiny skills in social care be included as an extra point.

RESOLVED

25.4    That the aims and objectives of SSNW be amended as suggested by members. 

E         Workplan

The Co-ordinator asked the meeting to consider the workplan with its current four key areas as: children’s issues, working with the NHS, disability issues and financial pressures.  Members were keen to retain these, though reports are not required for every meeting. 

RESOLVED

25.5    That the four areas of the existing workplan be retained.

F          Representation on Topss North West

            Cllr C Froggatt (Warrington) had previously volunteered to be the deputy representative on this.

RESOLVED  

25.6    That Cllr C Froggatt (Warrington) be the deputy SSNW representative for Topss.

G          Accounts

            The Co-ordinator presented the annual accounts, which reflect a healthy surplus.

RESOLVED

25.7    That regarding the accounts for financial year 2002/03:

·        they are approved as presented;

·        that  fees to be kept at the current level for the next financial year;

·        that £15,000 be transferred to the SSNW account at the Royal Bank of Scotland, Preston;

·        that Dave McNeice of Lancashire Social Services be thanked for his assistance with the accounts.

 

SSNW 03/26             Major Incident Management

            The Professional Assistant introduced the report and discussed a proposed conference to be held in the spring on the regional dimension of major incident management.  The report also contained details of an application for funding from the Discretionary Civil Defence Grant. David Hopewell the Regional Director Resilience has now agreed to be involved.

RESOLVED 

            1          That Members note the report.

 

SSNW 03/27             Key Services/Financial Pressures

            The Professional Assistant introduced the report on the latest developments including the extra money available for safeguarding children and the letter in response to SSNW’s own letter to John Reid.  No further action will be taken until members meet Pat Case of the LGA and Joan Humble MP have been met.

RESOLVED

That Members note the report.

 

SSNW 03/27             Delayed Discharges

            The Professional Assistant introduced the update on the current developments.  Members agreed that this issue will also be raised with Cllr Pat Case.  Cllr Cheetham felt that it was difficult to understand the private sector attitude regarding fees, he said that  Lancashire is working with Blackburn with Darwen to determine what constitutes reasonable fee levels for care homes,  so that an agreed standard can be reached.

RESOLVED

            1          That Members note the report

 

SSNW 03/28             AOB

            Cllr Keith thanked officers and members for their valuable contributions and also wished Ian Davey Director at Rochdale well on his retirement and thanked him for his contribution and presence over the years.

 

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